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Based on Open source material and Hints of Co-Ax on the in game models some are flat missing but actual test vehicles they are modeling may not have had Co-Ax added due to reasons of level of testing at program cancelation.
IT-1 PKT 7.62mm x 54 Rimmed 2,000 rounds stowed on production series vehicles.
Type 89 IFV Type 74 7.62 NATO 
Draco Never series produced offered with any CO-AX in reason Game Model shows Co-Ax as tip of Barrel for what appears to be a Browning M2 HB 50 cal.
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Object 287 PKT 7.62 x 54 3,000 rounds carried Testers mentioned it was best weapon on a poorly designed vehicle.

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Leclercs need their coax replaced by M2HB instead of puny 7.62 they have now, for historic reasons.

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Out of curiosity, I never really looked into it. But how many 50 cal MG's exist in game? There's obviously the standard 7.62mm, and varying types going to 30mm, 40mm, and even 50. I remember back in the day when the Wiesel had an autocannon that was a 20mm.

Either way, giving tanks a 12.7mm to replace their coaxial 7.62mm would be a good damage/offensive boost against things with almost no armor (various recon vehicles). It could be a balancing issue why they won't add that to LeClerc even if it's historically accurate unless they gimp the rate of fire slow enough that it'd be equivalent in DPM to the 7.62mm.

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At  T9 and T10  an M2 would not affect the effective dpm that much. There are only a couple of T9 or T10 vehicles that would be threatened by the M2 and they are missile boats anyway. This would just make then keep their heads down more, as they should. A glorified pickup truck with a couple of ATGM's should not waltz on the battlefield out in the open and survive. 

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Most of the 50 cal are US Browning M2 HB or the Russian DShK mounted as Anti Aircraft Primary weapons plus anti personal use. American mounts varied over time from pedistal mounts to some as Co-Ax on the T29, T30 and T34 Heavy tank engineering test articles to the Modern CROW system. The French had them mounted as Co-Ax on the Leclercs instead of the 20mm they had before on some AMX series tanks.
Two problems with the 50 cal as Co-Ax ammo count vs. Volume dedicated to it for ready use feed is much larger than a 2,000 Box for a 7.62. Unneeded Long range effects when fighting in Urban areas collaterial damage issue.

As to numbers usable in game Unknown In WoT there are a few in the low tiers of Light Tanks /Scout Cars.
Russian Round https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.7×108mm  
Russian Gun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DShK
American Round https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.7×99mm
American Gun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning

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BMPT This AFV is armed with four 9M120 Ataka missile launchers, two 30 mm 2A42 autocannons, two AGs-17D grenade launchers(not on all Models), and one coaxial 7.62 mm PKTM machine gun with maybe 2,000 rounds in magazine.
The Cannons from my reading each have a 350 round magazines One AP one HEI. The Missiles unlike in game are a bear to remove the empty tubes and drag 4 new rounds off a supply truck and get them mounted. Much the same dragging 350 round belts of 30mm down into the magazine even if done in sections it is a lot of work.
If they come up with quick load Quad missile packs one each side that a front endloader could place quick and drag out empty Magazine and stuff a new cannon magazine in it would be a game breaker for the building of new ones and getting them into units.
The AGs-17d with Remote electric trigger had I think 2 magazines of 29 rounds each for each one.

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